George Conway Mocks Giuliani For Trump-Cohen Comments

Tanya Cunningham
January 23, 2019

Rudy Giuliani in a new interview denied a BuzzFeed report that President Trump directed his former lawyer and fixer Michael Cohen to lie to Congress, claiming he had listened to audiotapes - but nearly in the same breath contradicted himself and said they didn't exist.

Cohen entered a guilty plea in November to a charge of lying to Congress about timing surrounding conversations about the Trump Tower Moscow project and admitted it was discussed through the fall of 2016 while the president was running for office.

Giuliani muddied the waters on Sunday after he revealed to The New York Times that Trump recalled that negotiations to build a Trump-branded skyscraper in Moscow were "going from the day I announced to the day I won" the 2016 presidential election.

The remarks also came amid fallout from a disputed report by BuzzFeed News that alleged that evidence showed that Trump had personally directed Cohen to lie to Congress about how long talks about the proposed project had overlapped with Trump's campaign for president.

Giuliani has also been caught misleading the public about the project before; he has previously said that the letter of intent to enter into the real estate deal was never signed, until documents emerged proving he was wrong.

Giuliani also distanced himself from comments he made Sunday in which he claimed Trump and his aides had been involved in discussions about the Moscow project well into the 2016 campaign - even possibly as late as October or November of that year. Trump publicly encouraged the Russians to hack Hillary Clinton's private server, though he later said he was joking.


So, what Giuliani chose to do on Monday in an interview with the New York Daily News was walk that back. This is a familiar defense from Giuliani (i.e.it didn't happen, but if it did it's not a crime).

Giuliani denied that claim, and a spokesman for the special counsel investigating possible campaign collusion between Trump's team and Russian officials, Robert Mueller, called the report "inaccurate".

Part of his confusion is that while Giuliani frequently speaks to his client, the president's legal team has had a hard time corralling Trump for a lengthy debriefing about the facts of the case, particularly from events stemming before the presidency, according to one official and a Republican close to the White House.

McCall said few viewers would have any idea that NBC has such a tight financial relationship with BuzzFeed and that it is incumbent upon the station to be transparent about it. "What I was talking about was, if he had those conversations, they would not be criminal". They didn't even know where to send it, they knew so little about it.

"I am afraid it will be on my gravestone". The report does not specify what Trump said to Cohen or when he said it. "And I think it's remarkable that we're two years after the fact and just discovering it today".

This was the second time within the past week that Giuliani has walked back comments from the previous day. "I'll be dead. I figure I can explain it to St. Peter".

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